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Pip Value Formula

admin on March 29th, 2010

The standard pip value for the USD-based account and the USD-based currency pairs (EUR/USD, GBP/USD, AUD/USD, etc.) is $10 for the standard lot. But many beginning Forex traders soon stumble upon the non-USD currency pairs (USD/JPY, USD/CHF or more difficult – EUR/JPY, EUR/CHF) or the non-dollar based accounts. In all those cases, the value of a single pip for your positions isn’t obvious. Here’s simple formula to calculate the pip value in all possible cases.

  1. Determine your account’s currency (in about 90% cases it’s USD). If it’s the same currency as the based currency of the pair (the second one, which goes after “/”) then proceed to step 4.
  2. If the account’s currency is different from the base currency but is the same as the currency pair’s long currency (the first one, which goes before “/”) then check this currency pair’s current Ask rate (the highest of the rates) and proceed to step 5.
  3. If the account’s currency is different from any of the currencies from the pair of the position, you have to check the current rate of this currency relative to the base currency of the pair:
    1. If the currency pair combined of the account’s currency and the base currency of the position has the account’s currency as the base currency (second, after “/”) then you should check and remember its current Bid rate (the lowest of the rates).
    2. If the currency pair combined of the account’s currency and the base currency of the position has the account’s currency as the long currency (first, before “/”) then you should check and remember its current Ask rate (the highest of the rates).
    3. Proceed to step 6.
  4. You should simply multiply the amount of currency units in your position (100,000 for 1 standard lot) by the size of one pip (0.0001 for almost all pairs and 0.01 for almost all pairs based on JPY). You’ll get a pip value of 10 currency units per 1 standard lot. The end.
  5. You should multiply the amount of currency units in your position (100,000 for 1 standard lot) by the size of one pip (0.0001 for almost all pairs and 0.01 for almost all pairs based on JPY) and then divide the result by the Ask rate from step 2. The end.
  6. You should multiply the amount of currency units in your position (100,000 for 1 standard lot) by the size of one pip (0.0001 for almost all pairs and 0.01 for almost all pairs based on JPY) and either multiply the result by the Bid rate received in step 3a or divide the result by the Ask rate received in step 3b.

Some examples:

  1. The easiest case: USD account and EUR/USD position of 1 standard lot – according to step 1 we should proceed to step 4:
    100,000 x 0.0001 = 10 (USD).
  2. The medium difficulty: EUR account and EUR/USD position of 1.5 standard lots – according to step 2 we should remember the current Ask rate of EUR/USD (1.3449) and proceed to step 5:
    150,000 x 0.0001 = 15; 15 / 1.3449 = 11.15 (EUR).
  3. The difficult case: JPY account and EUR/USD position of 0.7 standard lots – according to step 3a we should remember the current Bid rate of USD/JPY (92.51) and proceed to step 6:
    70,000 x 0.0001 = 7; 7 * 92.51 = 647.57 (JPY).

If that sounds too difficult for you or you have to calculate the value of the pip too often, you can use the free on-line pip value calculator. If you have some questions or comments, please, feel free to leave your commentary below.

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2 Responses to “Pip Value Formula”

  1. MALCOLM Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 3:10 am

    At first I was very confused, because this author calls the SECOND currency of any pair the “Base currency”. This is contrary to generally accepted practice, which is that the FIRST currency in a pair is referred to as the base currency and the second of the pair is the “quote” currency.
    I really think this should be edited.
    Quoting from Investopedia:
    “What Does Base Currency Mean?
    The first currency quoted in a currency pair on forex. [... ]

    It is sometimes referred to as the “primary currency”.

    Investopedia explains Base Currency
    For example, if you were looking at the CAD/USD currency pair, the Canadian dollar would be the base currency and the U.S. dollar would be the quote currency. “

  2. admin Says:
    April 25th, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Dictionary definitions aren’t always good. The only reason I call the second currency the “base currency” is because it’s they currency you spent to position a trade and it’s the currency that you earn/lose from the trade. I guess I’ve explained quite clearly where is which currency in the pair and it’s easy to understand how to calculate the value of the pip despite the reader’s previous concept of the base currency. It’s not the intent of the article to change that concept.

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